I come from
a time when every kid dressed up. Everybody. If you didn't, you
wouldn't be able to hang out. It was very tribal. There's nice
things in that. It's culture, it's roots for me. Maybe I just
never grew up, mate.
When I
was a kid in Woking, every week you went to the football dance,
and every week the top kids would be wearing something
different. You were constantly trying to catch up with them -
which you could never do because, by the time you'd saved up
enough to buy the item, they'd moved on to something else.
That's the whole Mod thing I suppose.
This was
the late Sixties, early Seventies and we were all post-skinheads
- suedeheads. We were little peanuts, too young to be proper
skinheads. But those styles permeated down to the kids anyway.
The main strand that forged it together was that
American-college look, the Brooks Brothers look: the cardigans
and sleeveless jumpers and the buttoned-down shirts and the
Sta-Prest trousers. That was the common ground. It was a way for
people who haven't got much to make a show.
I can
remember original Ben Sherman shirts being around till the early
Seventies. I had to really save for my first Ben Sherman. We
used to buy Brutus shirts, which were much cheaper - second
best. But Ben Shermans were the sought-after item. The first one
I ever got was a lemon-yellow one. I must have been 12, 13, and
it was a bit too big for me. But being a kid I didn't realise
you could take it back to the shop. I wore it till it fitted me.
It's the
aesthetic that sticks in my mind. The colours and the look of
things have stayed with me. It meant everything to me. It was a
statement of intent. And I thought, wouldn't it be nice to have
a Ben Sherman as they used to make 'em 40 years ago, or whatever
it was. So I spoke to Ben Sherman about doing my own design,
based on how they used to be, as near as dammit anyway. With a
few little modern touches. I just did a little sketch, put all
the details in: the bigger collar, bit more like a contemporary
Italian collar, a few little touches here and there. It's not
rocket science.
That
love of detail, the Mod thing, it's eternal for me. It's
ingrained, I don't even think about it. I get a buzz going into
a furniture shop - not even to buy things. Just to see the
roundness or the cut or the shape of something. It's all art,
you know what I mean? There's a shop down Knightsbridge way,
it's all Italian furniture - it's like walking into an art
gallery. And most of the decent clothes are made in Italy as
well, aren't they?
I think
my love of detail comes from the whole skinhead thing in the
late Sixties, early Seventies. But even having said that, it
must come down to the individual. I'm sure my contemporaries who
were little skinheads at the same time as I was, if I talked to
them now about the cut of a trouser, they'd be like, 'What are
you on about? It's just a fashion we went through'. Which is
right in some ways. But to me it meant more than that. Evidently
I was looking at all those details and studying it. So I guess
it was down to the individual's interpretation of what you care
to see.
I've had
offers to do my own label - I couldn't name a company, but
people have made approaches. It's still a possibility. If I
didn't do it, it wouldn't break my heart. But it would just be a
nice little thing to do. It's not a burning ambition, but it
could be cool as well, to make some nice, quality stuff.
I'll be
50 next year. Age has always been a bit of a nag up for me - I
thought I was old at 21. I can't believe half a century's gone.
It's not like I've not had a good time, 'cause I have, I've had
a fucking wicked time. I don't know if the feeling's made worse
by the fact that I was in the public eye with the Jam at 17 - it
just freaks me out. You see it with your kids. The birthdays
come round quicker and quicker. My youngest lad's gonna be two
soon. My oldest is gonna be 19 this year. I could be a grandad
soon, hah hah! In 10 years' time Mac will be 12 and I'll be 59.
I'll be the oldest dad in the playground waiting for him. It'll
be embarrassing. But what can you do?
I never,
ever wanted to be the Rolling Stones. Bless their hearts but I
don't necessarily want to go on doing the same old thing for the
next 10, 20 years ... I could see how easy it is to get into
that rut, the whole touring mindset. Apart from being able to
wipe your own arse, everything else is done for you. You get on
the bus and off you go.
But
sometimes you've just gotta get off the roundabout and see what
else is around musically and stylistically. Lily Allen's got a
great attitude. There's a lot of good talent around just now.
It's a good time, innit? I like the Kooks, Zutons, really like
them. And Amy Winehouse. Rehab is an amazing record. She's a
real talent. I've worked with her a couple of times and I could
tell she can really fucking do it.
I'm
supposed to be having a year off. But I'm recording with [former
Blur guitarist] Graham Coxon for a possible one-off single, and
I'm doing Glastonbury, and three warm-ups in Telford, Newport
and Plymouth - all the fucking hotspots!
Yeah,
I'll be wearing me Ben Sherman shirts this summer. Well, I
fucking hope so - if I get some free ones out of 'em! Listen, I
wouldn't do 'em if they weren't cool, right?